Former President Olusegun Obasanjo has urged Nigerians to maintain hope for the country’s future, despite the ongoing economic challenges. During an interview on Arise TV on Monday, Obasanjo, an “incurable optimist,” expressed his belief that Nigeria will ultimately reach its destined greatness.

“We are going through hardship, but Nigerians should never lose hope,” Obasanjo said. “I’m an incurable optimist about Nigeria, and I believe we have a great country. Where we are now is not where God wants us to be, and I believe that sooner than later we will reach where God wants us to be.”

Obasanjo emphasized that Nigeria’s potential is vast, stating that God envisions the country to be “a land flowing with milk and honey, not a desert, a basket case, or a failed country.” He acknowledged that the country’s current state results from both the actions and inactions of its leaders and citizens, but he maintained faith in a bright future for Nigeria.

Reflecting on leadership, Obasanjo pointed out that true leadership goes beyond holding political office. He urged both current and former leaders to leverage their experiences and connections for the greater good, stating, “Whether you spend two years or 10 years in office, you acquire certain experiences and build relationships that can be tapped into for the good of the world.”

Obasanjo also criticized the current “deficit of leadership” across sectors, particularly in politics. He stressed the importance of leaders continuing to serve even after leaving office, as leadership plays a crucial role in shaping the world.

Addressing global dynamics, Obasanjo spoke on the relationship between Africa and the United States, specifically referring to the comments made by U.S. President-elect Donald Trump in 2018, when he allegedly called African nations, along with Haiti and El Salvador, “shitholes.” While Trump has since denied making such remarks, Obasanjo emphasized that Africa must work to change such perceptions.

“It’s time to prove to Trump that what he called a ‘shithole’ is not it,” Obasanjo said. “We must make him understand that America has an enlightened interest in Africa, and we must demand the respect and dignity that is due to us.”

The former president underscored the importance of engagement with the U.S., given America’s global influence. “America is the greatest country in the world for now,” he said. “We have to find a way of letting Trump know that Africa deserves respect, and we must work together for a peaceful, secure, and prosperous world.”